Tempted By The Fruit – Bike Snob NYC


When folks examine two issues that actually don’t warrant comparability as a result of they’re inherently completely different, we name this “apples and oranges.” However why? They’re each fruits, they’re each useful snacks, and it’s possible you’ll very nicely end up considering the crisper drawer or your native fruit boy attempting to resolve between the 2:

[I’m not sure he’s got any oranges in there but whatever.]

So it’s completely affordable to check the relative deserves of apples versus oranges. It’s not such as you’re evaluating apples with engine oil filters or feline de-worming drugs. Hey, when reaching for a bit of fruit, why not make an knowledgeable selection?


Oranges excel in Vitamin C, folate, and hydration, whereas apples provide extra fiber (particularly within the pores and skin), Vitamin Ok, and barely extra energy/sugar per serving, although each are wholesome, low-fat decisions wealthy in antioxidants, potassium, and minerals, with oranges usually decrease in energy and carbs. Select oranges for immune help and hydration; select apples for digestive well being and satiety. 


Thanks, in style search engine!

I additionally discovered myself evaluating apples and oranges this previous weekend. Right here’s the apple:

And right here’s the orange:

In my ongoing quest for the Spirit of Gravel I discover myself asking two questions over and over, and they’re:

  • What’s gravel?
  • Why do we’d like a particular bike for it?

Luckily the reply to the primary query is straightforward:

And so is the reply to the second query:

We dont.

Nonetheless, all of this raises a 3rd query:

  • So if we don’t want particular bikes for gravel, then what’s one of the best non-gravel bike for gravel?

This after all is very suggestive, so I can solely reply it within the context of my very own huge velocipedal holdings, which till the PRJCT GRVL bike got here alongside didn’t embrace an precise gravel bike. And whereas I’ve a number of bicycles which can be very a lot at dwelling on the big variety of terrain you’ll encounter in between the street and the mountain bike path, the one I preserve coming again to when making comparisons with the PRJCT GRVL bike is the Jones. I suppose it’s because the Jones has all the trendy options you’ll discover on most gravel bikes, equivalent to disc brakes and thru-axles and a single-ring drivetrain with big selection gearing and plenty of locations to connect bottles and luggage for the in a single day adventures I’ll by no means undertake, but on the identical time it defies all of the tedious gravel sub-categories–or actually any class–and is supposed to do just about every little thing.

Additionally, they’re each black.

Final week I’d taken the PRJCT GRVL bike on a experience that included each street and “gravel” segments, in addition to a detour via the forbidding Trails Behind The Mall, and so I figured I’d do the identical factor on the Jones. Right here’s how they examine:

On The Street

After I moved to upstate New York Metropolis in 2012 and was in a position to experience to mountain bike trails as a substitute of driving to them, my offroad rides grew longer and longer. I quickly realized I wanted a mountain bike handlebar with extra hand positions, which finally led me to the Jones bar, and so taken was I with with it and plus-sized tires and all the remainder of it that I dedicated to driving nothing however a Jones bar-equipped bike for a complete 12 months…and failed. (This was earlier than I had an precise Jones and was driving a Jones-ified Marin Pine Mountain.)

Then got here the Rivendae and with them a deep appreciation for the consolation of swept-back bars, and I puzzled if perhaps it was time for me to surrender drop bars completely:

Nevertheless, looking back this was the zeal of the transformed. I nonetheless love each the Jones bar and the swept bar on the Platypus as a lot as I at all times did. But when if I’m driving completely on paved roads over longer distances I nonetheless want a drop bar–ideally connected to a street bike, which may very well be something from the chubby-tired Roadini to a skinny-tired race bike relying on my temper.

The PRJCT GRVL bike will not be a street bike substitute. Slick tires would make it a little bit extra roadish, however even then it solely accepts a single 40-tooth chainring. So for a road-only experience I wouldn’t select it over a street bike…although I’d select it over the Jones, primarily because it has the drop bars. I notice there are individuals who dislike drop bars even on the street, and as somebody who has come to embrace different types of bars I definitely. I doubt the PRJCT GRVL bike is inherently quicker than the Jones on the street, and for those who’re a non-drop bar particular person then the Jones may very nicely be the higher street bike for you. (Plus, in contrast to the PRJCT GRVL bike you may even set the Jones up with a double crank.) But clearly I’m essentially a drop bar particular person (a “droppie,” which I believe ought to substitute the time period “roadie” going ahead) so for street driving I’ve to present it to PRJCT GRVL, sorry.

On The Garvel

This one’s extra difficult. See everyone knows what the street is. However what’s gravel?

Oh, proper, I preserve forgetting.

Anyway, for the needs of our dialogue, let’s say “gravel” is something from this…

…to this:

Whereas drop bars are kind of a requirement for me on the street, I don’t actually miss them on so-called “gravel,” and the nearer mentioned gravel will get to the second image the much less I miss them. The most important distinction right here is that the Jones can roll easily at excessive pace over the terrain in that second photograph, whereas the PRJCT GRVL bike can not–not less than not with out fatter tires and a suspension fork, and you understand how I really feel about that:

After all the PRJCT GRVL bike is designed with garvel racing in thoughts. Is it a quicker garvel racing bike than the Jones? I freely admit I’m under no circumstances certified to reply, simply as I’m not certified to say which one can be higher for bikepacking. (Certain, I’d assume it might be the Jones, however I haven’t slept in something apart from a mattress in like 35 years.) Definitely the PRJCT GRVL bike is way lighter. Sure, you possibly can additionally put collectively a Jones that’s fairly a bit lighter than the one I’m driving, however it might be a reasonably costly proposition involving crabon bars and rims and a titanium body, whereas the PRJCT GRVL bike is fairly mild even in its present budget-friendly state. However is something quicker than with the ability to float over just about every little thing on a pair of 3-inch tires? I DON’T KNOW. And I don’t actually care, both. All I’ll say is that for an unloaded non-racing day rider like me the Jones is not less than pretty much as good a gravel bike because the PRJCT GRVL bike. Sure, I’d fairly carry the PRJCT GRVL bike up a flight of stairs than the Jones, however I believe the metal Jones would fare higher than the PRJCT GRVL bike if I threw them each again down down it.

As for whether or not or not any of this interprets on to Jesus carrying, I’m not a bikepacker and I’m not spiritual, so I’m doubly underqualified to go judgment there:

On The Mountain Bike Path

There’s actually no comparability right here. You’ll be able to definitely experience the PRJCT GRVL bike on a mountain bike path, however the Jones needs to be on the mountain bike path. Whereas my intention was to experience the identical route on each bikes, as soon as I bought to the forbidding Trails Behind The Mall on the Jones I couldn’t resist going deeper into the woods, and was them with out occasion fascinated with it:

Of all of the biking communities which have rejected me–and just about all of them have–I don’t suppose any have finished so extra emphatically than the mountain bikers:

They’ve jogged my memory time and time once more that I’m not an actual mountain biker, and I suppose they’re proper, as a result of by trendy requirements that is now not mountain biking:

By the way in which, this tire is nearly seven years outdated, and it refuses to wear down:

Clearly the sidewall goes to go lengthy earlier than the tread will:

Anyway, I used to be all able to declare the Jones the general winner, however the subsequent day I bought again on the PRJCT GRVL bike because the snow started to fall and it couldn’t have been higher:

Apples? Oranges? I suppose I identical to fruit salad.

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